# Organizational Transformation - All Guest Insights

*2 guests, 2 mentions*

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## John Cutler
*John Cutler*

> "Most of those companies need to think of frameworks appropriately... they see adopting the frameworks as the end goal."

**Insight:** A significant portion of the transcript is dedicated to the specific skill of 'nudging' legacy or non-Silicon Valley companies toward modern product practices without causing systemic rejection.


## Marty Cagan
*Marty Cagan 2.0*

> "The goal of TRANSFORMED, unlike the other books, was to share how to actually change. There are techniques in TRANSFORMED as well, but there are transformation techniques."

**Insight:** The guest discusses the specific process of moving a company from a 'feature team' model to a 'product operating model,' which involves structural, cultural, and process changes beyond simple team bui


